Someone called Arun Chandra sent this mail forward that reached me. I think you ought to read it first:
Some may say that the Israeli action at Gaza is wrong
but here it is ....
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000
ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
Economics: (zero)
Physics: (zero)
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 7 SEVEN
__________________________________________________________
The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 FOURTEEN
MILLION
Or about 0.02% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1! 994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Bu! rton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charle S Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 ! - Eli e Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
198! 9 - H arold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
TOTAL: ONE HUNDRED & TWENTY NINE !
The Jews are not brain washing the children in military
training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!
The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics or blow
themselves up in German restaurants. There is not a single Jew that has
destroyed a church. There is not a single Jew that protests by killing
people.
The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and
death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the
Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more
culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say
it all:
'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more
violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no
more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu.
So here is my response:
Thanks for the very interesting mail forward. It’s extremely nice to find out what the other half is thinking. Now, if you would be so kind as to give me a hearing, I would like to discuss your forward section by section:
You say:
“Some may say that the Israeli action at Gaza is wrong”
Some?
Here are the links to some (of many) websites detailing worldwide protests:
http://www.fsrn.org/audio/jan-05-2009/worldwide-protests-criticize-israels-invasion-gaza/3894
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/10/gaza-london-protest-march
Those protests don’t seem to be the work of only “some”, do they?
But perhaps you would think that since 99% of the world’s population did not take part in these organised protests, they were the work of only “some” people?
Then you go on to say:
“but here it is ....
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000
ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.”
Even if we assume (since you did not provide the source for your claim) that the population figures you cited are accurate, I find it very interesting that you should
1. Equate all Muslims, everywhere, be they the Senegalese fisherman or the Indonesian rubber tapper, the Chechen warlord or the Tamil shopkeeper.
2. That you should (obviously) assume that despite all their other differences and the reality that they have nothing in common but the fact that they are Muslims (of very different religious and cultural levels, too) – that you should assume that they are a homogeneous mass. If you said something equivalent about Christians, one would immediately hear about how they are of many different and opposed denominations.
Then you go on to say:
“They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
Economics: (zero)
Physics: (zero)
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 7 SEVEN”
I notice that you don’t mention Orhan Pamuk; but perhaps you stole this information off an old site or perhaps he is not Muslim enough for you. Anyway, you continue:
__________________________________________________________
“ The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 FOURTEEN
MILLION
Or about 0.02% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
...
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
... 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
... 2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
...
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 ! - Eli e Metchnikoff
...
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
TOTAL: ONE HUNDRED & TWENTY NINE ! “
Let’s see:
1. The total population of India is 1.1 billion and a bit. How many Nobel prizes have Indians, even counting expatriate Indians like Subramaniam Chandrasekhar, who are citizens of other countries, won? Does that come home to you in any way? As per your theory, Indians should have the corresponding number of Nobel laureates. Right?
2. The Nobel Prize has been in existence for just over a hundred years and has an extremely politicised and/or controversial history, including the scientific awards (the Peace Prize is nothing but politics, as I think you are just possibly aware – recall for instance that it was never awarded to Mohandas Gandhi). Albert Einstein, for example, was not given the Nobel Prize for his General or Special Theory of Relativity but for research into the Photoelectric effect – relatively minor work.
i. As a corollary of this point, the Nobel Prize selectively recognises some particular achievements over the last hundred years only.
ii. During the last hundred years (and the hundred years before that) the Islamic countries were almost all occupied by, or at least controlled by, Western imperialistic powers (as was India). The only real exception, the Ottoman Empire, was a fractious and unstable entity trying to keep itself in existence. General education for all was the last of its priorities. And after its collapse in 1918, its successor states were swallowed by Western imperialistic countries for a half century or more.
iii. Virtually all the Jews in your list are of European extraction and come from nations that were of the exploitative/imperialistic persuasion. These nations had the time and money available for investment in great universities where the nation’s upper classes, Jewish or Christian, sent its children. If you could point out black Ethiopian Jews or Iranian Jews or Russian Jews from the villages who had done startlingly original work in nuclear physics or cardiac medicine, I might have conceded you have a point. Since you did not (and you cannot), it comes down only to who had better access to education at the right time (apart of course from the question of political bias).
iv. During the so-called Middle Ages, when science and literature and knowledge were snuffed out in the Judeo-Christian world, who was it that kept the flame of knowledge burning? Have you heard of Ibn’ Sina(Avicenna in the Latinised version)? No? How about Abu al Qasim(Albucasis)? Not of him either? How about the scholars of Bukhara and Baghdad? I thought not.
Fine. So let’s go on to your next claim:
“The Jews are not brain washing the children in military
training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims! “
I’m attaching a photo. It dates from July 2006 and is taken from thissite (I very strongly recommend you take a look at the other photos onthis site too). It shows Jewish (Zionist, also called “Israeli”) children writing messages on shells that were about to be fired on civilian areas in Lebanon.
Every citizen of the so-called state of “Israel” is trained and armed as a soldier and becomes a reservist after military service. I do not know of any comparable move, at large, among Muslim nations. Maybe you do.
The vast majority of Islamic terrorist groups are fighting against Muslim regimes. Very few fight against non-Muslims and even then the primary cause of fighting is to achieve rule over Muslim nations. The only exception is the fight against “Israel”, which has no compunctions about bombing schools, mosques, or hospitals.
“ The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics or blow
themselves up in German restaurants. There is not a single Jew that has
destroyed a church. There is not a single Jew that protests by killing
people.”
Have you heard of the Zealots? No? How about the massacres inJewish history as described in the Old Testament? If you would like to know a bit about that I recommend you go to this video here: it won’t take a lot of your time, and you can ignore what it says if you wish.
Then again, have you ever heard of the Irgun, Haganah, or Stern Gang? How about the blowing up of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem? Did your universe ever hold a mention of the massacre at Deir Yassin? Are you familiar with the term naqbah? Did you even pause a moment to wonder why Gaza should be so crammed full of people who migrated there from elsewhere?
To all those questions, the answer is, “of course not”.
Right, let us go further:
“The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and
death to all the Infidels. “
Again, check that video I linked to. Then come back and repeat that comment and prove what you said – with evidence.
“ Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.”
1. When people have been deprived of food and work and even the right to shoes, I think access to ‘standard education” is not so easy as you seem to think.
2. I am yet to meet a Muslim who said that all Muslim problems were due to Jews. I never even met a Muslim who claimed that the so-called state of “Israel” was the fault of all Jews. At most Muslims say that the so-called state of “Israel” is an illegitimate occupier of historically Arab land and it is responsible for genocide-level crimes against the Palestinian population – Christian and Muslim both.
Perhaps you have some kind of evidence to the contrary, of course.
Then you go on to say:
“Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the
Palestinians and Arab neighbors, “
From the (mis)spelling of “neighbours” you use, it’s evident that you took this bit, at least, off an American or Zionist website.
“...even if you believe there is more
culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say
it all:
'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more
violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no
more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu."
Do you even know who Binyamin Netanyahu is? Have you heard of...say, Hitler? Well, Netanyahu is the Hitler of the Zionists, someone who claims only genocide-level crimes will achieve security.
In any case, what is your argument? Do you claim that because Muslims have not won as many Nobel Prizes as Jews, the Zionist pseudo-state of “Israel”, which incidentally many Jews oppose, has the right to bomb, invade, and kill Muslims at will? Is that your contention?
I kind of doubt if you read this far before deleting this mail. I must warn you that I have put up a version of it on my blog as well, as well as forwarding a copy to a moderator of the HAL alumni group. I am surprised they allowed such a rabidly bigoted piece on the group at all. If they do not take some sort of action against you now, it will only be evidence that they are not as even-handed as they seem.
I look forward to reading your rebuttal – if any.
Some may say that the Israeli action at Gaza is wrong
but here it is ....
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000
ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
Economics: (zero)
Physics: (zero)
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 7 SEVEN
__________________________________________________________
The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 FOURTEEN
MILLION
Or about 0.02% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1! 994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Bu! rton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charle S Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 ! - Eli e Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
198! 9 - H arold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
TOTAL: ONE HUNDRED & TWENTY NINE !
The Jews are not brain washing the children in military
training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!
The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics or blow
themselves up in German restaurants. There is not a single Jew that has
destroyed a church. There is not a single Jew that protests by killing
people.
The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and
death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the
Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more
culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say
it all:
'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more
violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no
more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu.
So here is my response:
Thanks for the very interesting mail forward. It’s extremely nice to find out what the other half is thinking. Now, if you would be so kind as to give me a hearing, I would like to discuss your forward section by section:
You say:
“Some may say that the Israeli action at Gaza is wrong”
Some?
Here are the links to some (of many) websites detailing worldwide protests:
http://www.fsrn.org/audio/jan-05-2009/worldwide-protests-criticize-israels-invasion-gaza/3894
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/10/gaza-london-protest-march
Those protests don’t seem to be the work of only “some”, do they?
But perhaps you would think that since 99% of the world’s population did not take part in these organised protests, they were the work of only “some” people?
Then you go on to say:
“but here it is ....
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000
ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.”
Even if we assume (since you did not provide the source for your claim) that the population figures you cited are accurate, I find it very interesting that you should
1. Equate all Muslims, everywhere, be they the Senegalese fisherman or the Indonesian rubber tapper, the Chechen warlord or the Tamil shopkeeper.
2. That you should (obviously) assume that despite all their other differences and the reality that they have nothing in common but the fact that they are Muslims (of very different religious and cultural levels, too) – that you should assume that they are a homogeneous mass. If you said something equivalent about Christians, one would immediately hear about how they are of many different and opposed denominations.
Then you go on to say:
“They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
Economics: (zero)
Physics: (zero)
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 7 SEVEN”
I notice that you don’t mention Orhan Pamuk; but perhaps you stole this information off an old site or perhaps he is not Muslim enough for you. Anyway, you continue:
__________________________________________________________
“ The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 FOURTEEN
MILLION
Or about 0.02% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
...
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
... 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
... 2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
...
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 ! - Eli e Metchnikoff
...
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
TOTAL: ONE HUNDRED & TWENTY NINE ! “
Let’s see:
1. The total population of India is 1.1 billion and a bit. How many Nobel prizes have Indians, even counting expatriate Indians like Subramaniam Chandrasekhar, who are citizens of other countries, won? Does that come home to you in any way? As per your theory, Indians should have the corresponding number of Nobel laureates. Right?
2. The Nobel Prize has been in existence for just over a hundred years and has an extremely politicised and/or controversial history, including the scientific awards (the Peace Prize is nothing but politics, as I think you are just possibly aware – recall for instance that it was never awarded to Mohandas Gandhi). Albert Einstein, for example, was not given the Nobel Prize for his General or Special Theory of Relativity but for research into the Photoelectric effect – relatively minor work.
i. As a corollary of this point, the Nobel Prize selectively recognises some particular achievements over the last hundred years only.
ii. During the last hundred years (and the hundred years before that) the Islamic countries were almost all occupied by, or at least controlled by, Western imperialistic powers (as was India). The only real exception, the Ottoman Empire, was a fractious and unstable entity trying to keep itself in existence. General education for all was the last of its priorities. And after its collapse in 1918, its successor states were swallowed by Western imperialistic countries for a half century or more.
iii. Virtually all the Jews in your list are of European extraction and come from nations that were of the exploitative/imperialistic persuasion. These nations had the time and money available for investment in great universities where the nation’s upper classes, Jewish or Christian, sent its children. If you could point out black Ethiopian Jews or Iranian Jews or Russian Jews from the villages who had done startlingly original work in nuclear physics or cardiac medicine, I might have conceded you have a point. Since you did not (and you cannot), it comes down only to who had better access to education at the right time (apart of course from the question of political bias).
iv. During the so-called Middle Ages, when science and literature and knowledge were snuffed out in the Judeo-Christian world, who was it that kept the flame of knowledge burning? Have you heard of Ibn’ Sina(Avicenna in the Latinised version)? No? How about Abu al Qasim(Albucasis)? Not of him either? How about the scholars of Bukhara and Baghdad? I thought not.
Fine. So let’s go on to your next claim:
“The Jews are not brain washing the children in military
training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims! “
I’m attaching a photo. It dates from July 2006 and is taken from thissite (I very strongly recommend you take a look at the other photos onthis site too). It shows Jewish (Zionist, also called “Israeli”) children writing messages on shells that were about to be fired on civilian areas in Lebanon.
Every citizen of the so-called state of “Israel” is trained and armed as a soldier and becomes a reservist after military service. I do not know of any comparable move, at large, among Muslim nations. Maybe you do.
The vast majority of Islamic terrorist groups are fighting against Muslim regimes. Very few fight against non-Muslims and even then the primary cause of fighting is to achieve rule over Muslim nations. The only exception is the fight against “Israel”, which has no compunctions about bombing schools, mosques, or hospitals.
“ The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics or blow
themselves up in German restaurants. There is not a single Jew that has
destroyed a church. There is not a single Jew that protests by killing
people.”
Have you heard of the Zealots? No? How about the massacres inJewish history as described in the Old Testament? If you would like to know a bit about that I recommend you go to this video here: it won’t take a lot of your time, and you can ignore what it says if you wish.
Then again, have you ever heard of the Irgun, Haganah, or Stern Gang? How about the blowing up of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem? Did your universe ever hold a mention of the massacre at Deir Yassin? Are you familiar with the term naqbah? Did you even pause a moment to wonder why Gaza should be so crammed full of people who migrated there from elsewhere?
To all those questions, the answer is, “of course not”.
Right, let us go further:
“The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and
death to all the Infidels. “
Again, check that video I linked to. Then come back and repeat that comment and prove what you said – with evidence.
“ Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.”
1. When people have been deprived of food and work and even the right to shoes, I think access to ‘standard education” is not so easy as you seem to think.
2. I am yet to meet a Muslim who said that all Muslim problems were due to Jews. I never even met a Muslim who claimed that the so-called state of “Israel” was the fault of all Jews. At most Muslims say that the so-called state of “Israel” is an illegitimate occupier of historically Arab land and it is responsible for genocide-level crimes against the Palestinian population – Christian and Muslim both.
Perhaps you have some kind of evidence to the contrary, of course.
Then you go on to say:
“Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the
Palestinians and Arab neighbors, “
From the (mis)spelling of “neighbours” you use, it’s evident that you took this bit, at least, off an American or Zionist website.
“...even if you believe there is more
culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say
it all:
'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more
violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no
more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu."
Do you even know who Binyamin Netanyahu is? Have you heard of...say, Hitler? Well, Netanyahu is the Hitler of the Zionists, someone who claims only genocide-level crimes will achieve security.
In any case, what is your argument? Do you claim that because Muslims have not won as many Nobel Prizes as Jews, the Zionist pseudo-state of “Israel”, which incidentally many Jews oppose, has the right to bomb, invade, and kill Muslims at will? Is that your contention?
I kind of doubt if you read this far before deleting this mail. I must warn you that I have put up a version of it on my blog as well, as well as forwarding a copy to a moderator of the HAL alumni group. I am surprised they allowed such a rabidly bigoted piece on the group at all. If they do not take some sort of action against you now, it will only be evidence that they are not as even-handed as they seem.
I look forward to reading your rebuttal – if any.
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